RubyGB's Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release

about

I have given more than enough time for the gatalogians to catch up. If they can prove that they have made any progress towards "release" in any capacity whatsoever I will take these files back down.

Prove that the beta is an active endeavor, publicly post screenshots and I will take the files down.

No, the video of you testing with 300blk subs that you made a few days after I left (6+ months ago) does not count, that is not a rifle round and has very similar muzzle pressure out of whatever barrel length to a 9mm super. This project isn't even NFA related, you should easily be able to find people to test it. There are enough people already in the room to test it, unless you simply are completely incompetent and wish to hide that fact from the world.

If you are planning on trying to make changes to the files to make it compatible with rifles, I wish you luck because it's going to be pretty difficult to do that and maintain the absolute art that ruby did when she made them originally. (unless of course, you are simply better than me, in which case I am once again begging you to prove it)

you will not be allowed to hoard the files, and I will not hoard them myself. I still have a functioning RnT set that i use for tests because i actually liked it.

 

Rose and Thorn

The rose and thorn is a flash can/muzzle brake combo for pistol caliber carbines.

by Ruby Authored by Nikolai.Romanov

Description

The rose and thorn is a PCC muzzle brake and/or flash can combination that can be used either as a standalone, combination, or seperately. they are not a QD detachable system.

Following the death of ruby, I made it my mission to finish two of the ruby files which were left over. One of those projects is the RGC Chimera, the other is the Rose and Thorn.

With great controversy the first time they were published, I did some things that were me lashing out at the unfortunate power structure which had been contrived surrounding ruby's final gift to the world. It is not something to be hoarded. I refuse to stand for this.

While my actions the first time around were wrong, and I acknowledge that, I do hope that people will appreciate this project for what it is, and ruby's work will be appreciated for its merits, and not the fact that ruby was transgender. the fact that ruby is transgender has absolutely nothing to do with her provenance as a designer. anyone that tries to construe things otherwise is using her dead body as a flag.

The original arguments over the release of these two projects were rooted in a single paragraph written in a long-shelved documentation package which was to accompany this, which bears repeating.

To any who would wish to politicise or weaponize the works of the late and great Ruby, please don't. It is unsighty. As a member of the team helping test the Rose & Thorn, I never learned about the controversial nature of their life until after their untimely end. Therefore, I would like to ask each and every one of the readers of this document to appreciate the work of this pleasant and by all accounts nice individual to their fullest extent, which would be without any thought to politics or identity. It is simply a wonderful model made for anyone to enjoy.

With that said, please continue to the rest of the guide, and thank you for reading.

-Nikolai Romanov

Testing Report

The RnT in this iteration has been tested somewhat extensively with PCCs - when printed correctly it will work fine. However, dont expect it to survive a rifle. the rose itself will not explode, but the flash hider bits on the front will blow out - use at your own risk. the thorn will unceremoniously explode upon use with a rifle. don't do it.

the rose can even be printed in PETG and will survive fine assuming you are using one of the thread adapter options.

WARNING NOT FOR USE WITH RIFLE CALIBERS USE WITH .45ACP, 5.7X28, 22WMR/LR, AND 9MM ONLY. USING THE ROSE AND THORN IN ANY COMBINATION WITH A RIFLE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE VERY UNSAFE IT WILL EXPLODE

Thanks to the beta testers and DD admins involved -iamarizona (which really didnt do anything but make things worse but whatever, you get some credit for being present, even if you threatened violence against me) -rsmith28 (originally involved in documentation, was nice at least) -Sparquah (tester, also a very rude person but iirc they did test it at least once.) -Lizzyhasagat (tester, also threatened to swat me later.) -TooAceForThisShit (tester, afaik okay) -uncleJunior (i dont remember why, but im sure they tested it) -nikolairomanov (tested the RnT in multiple forms and added all of the current thread patterns, as well as made this entire filepack.)

Variants

  • Rose - the rose flash can
  • Thorn - the thorn muzzle brake
  • Rose&Thorn - the rose and the thorn joined together

Thread patterns:

  • 578x28 - 45 cal
  • 5/8x24 - some 9mms use this
  • 1/2x28 - 9mm/5.7/etc
  • 1/2x36 - some 9mm pccs use this
  • 3/4x10 - mac9 muzzle threads. very large, may not be accessible depending on your mac frame. rose only.
  • 3/4x16 - thread adapter for 1/2x28 barrels. offers more contact area and better thermal resistance than direct thread. only available for the rose+thorn
  • 7/8x9 - 45cal mac muzzle threads. very rare but why not (45cal) rose only.
  • 13/16x16 - muzzle brake external threads. rose only
  • 13/16x16 BA - made specifically for the BREEK ARMS muzzle devices with an angled shoulder for better contact area. rose only

If there is any thread pattern Rose/Thorn/RnT you need and not in the pack please feel free to contact me through any channel and I will make it for you, and the pack will be updated with the new files.

EXTRAS: 5/8x24 crush washer

Materials Required

  • x1 149g of PLA+, ABS, or PA-CF - ROSE
  • x1 22g of PLA+, ABS, or PA-CF - THORN
  • x1 154g of PLA+, ABS, or PA-CF - ROSE AND THORN

Instructions

1.PRINT WITH RECCOMENDED SETTINGS:

SYSTEMA SERIES PRINT SETTINGS ORIENTATION - Thread on the bed VOLUMETRIC FLOW - VERY IMPORTANT IF YOUR SLICER IS CAPABLE OF LIMITING VOLUMETRIC FLOW, SET TO 8MM^3/S OR LESS FOR PLA+, LESS FOR OTHER MATERIALS IF IT IS NOT CAPABLE, USE SPEED TO LIMIT VOLUMETRIC FLOW. IDK HOW, FIGURE IT OUT OR USE A DIFFERENT SLICER RECTILINEAR INFILL INFILL PERCENTAGE- 100% WALLS - 2-4 depending on your nozzle size TOP/BOTTOM LAYERS - 2 LAYER HEIGHT - AS A GENERAL RULE, STICK TO 1/2 THE DIAMETER OF YOUR NOZZLE FOR STRENGTH. FOR PRINTED THREADS, USE 0.16-0.2MM LAYER HEIGHT. 0.3mm will work but will be hard to thread. Z SEAM - SET TO RANDOMIZE, OTHERWISE THIS CAN CREATE STRESS CONCENTRATIONS IN THE PART. BRIM - RECCOMDENDED OUTSIDE BRIM ONLY, 5+MM MINIMUM. SHOULD PULL RIGHT OFF.

  1. REMOVE FROM PRINT BED
  2. THREAD ON TO MUZZLE, APPLYING DOWNWARD FORCE PARALLEL WITH THE BARREL TO START THE THREADS
  3. EQUIP EYE AND HEARING PROTECTION FOR FIRST SHOTS TO VALIDATE THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY.
  4. FIRE AT LEAST 5 SHOTS TO ENSURE IT SURVIVES
  5. ???
  6. Profit

Pro-tip: Get a tap in the thread pattern you plan on using, and chase the threads with it carefully. this will make your threads a lot smoother. highly reccomended for direct thread.

Change Log

 

  • V1 - Same Version that was betad with the gatalog, initially designed by ruby. refined by yours truly and added almost all of the current thread patterns, as well as the "rose only" version.

files

File Extension
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose/STL/Rose .578x28.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose/STL/Rose 1-2x28.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose/STL/Rose 7-8x9.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose/STL/Rose 5-8x24.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose/STL/Rose 13-16x16.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose/STL/Rose 3-4x16.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose/STL/Rose 13-16x16 BA.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose/STL/Rose 3-4x10.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose/STL/Rose 1-2x36.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Extras/5-8x24 Crush Washer.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Thorn/Thorn 5-8x24.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Thorn/Thorn .578x28.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Thorn/Thorn 1-2x28.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Thorn/Thorn 1-2x36.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose & Thorn/RnT 3-4x16.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose & Thorn/RnT 1-2x36.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose & Thorn/RnT .578x28.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose & Thorn/RnT 5-8x24.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose & Thorn/RnT 1-2x28.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose/Rose 1-2x28.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose/Rose 7-8x9.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose/Rose .578x28.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose/Rose 5-8x24.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose/Rose 3-4x10.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose/Rose 13-16x16.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose/Rose 13-16x16 BA.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose/Rose 1-2x36.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose/Rose 3-4x16.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Thorn/Thorn 1-2x28.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Thorn/Thorn .578x28.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Thorn/Thorn 1-2x36.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Thorn/Thorn 5-8x24.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose & Thorn/RnT 1-2x28.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose & Thorn/RnT 3-4x16.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose & Thorn/RnT 1-2x36.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose & Thorn/RnT .578x28.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose & Thorn/RnT 5-8x24.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/Renders/Thorn 1.png png
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/Renders/Thorn 2.png png
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/Renders/Rose 1.png png
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/README - Rose and Thorn.md md

versions

Version: 1.0.0 latest

initial upload

about

I have given more than enough time for the gatalogians to catch up. If they can prove that they have made any progress towards "release" in any capacity whatsoever I will take these files back down.

Prove that the beta is an active endeavor, publicly post screenshots and I will take the files down.

No, the video of you testing with 300blk subs that you made a few days after I left (6+ months ago) does not count, that is not a rifle round and has very similar muzzle pressure out of whatever barrel length to a 9mm super. This project isn't even NFA related, you should easily be able to find people to test it. There are enough people already in the room to test it, unless you simply are completely incompetent and wish to hide that fact from the world.

If you are planning on trying to make changes to the files to make it compatible with rifles, I wish you luck because it's going to be pretty difficult to do that and maintain the absolute art that ruby did when she made them originally. (unless of course, you are simply better than me, in which case I am once again begging you to prove it)

you will not be allowed to hoard the files, and I will not hoard them myself. I still have a functioning RnT set that i use for tests because i actually liked it.

 

Rose and Thorn

The rose and thorn is a flash can/muzzle brake combo for pistol caliber carbines.

by Ruby Authored by Nikolai.Romanov

Description

The rose and thorn is a PCC muzzle brake and/or flash can combination that can be used either as a standalone, combination, or seperately. they are not a QD detachable system.

Following the death of ruby, I made it my mission to finish two of the ruby files which were left over. One of those projects is the RGC Chimera, the other is the Rose and Thorn.

With great controversy the first time they were published, I did some things that were me lashing out at the unfortunate power structure which had been contrived surrounding ruby's final gift to the world. It is not something to be hoarded. I refuse to stand for this.

While my actions the first time around were wrong, and I acknowledge that, I do hope that people will appreciate this project for what it is, and ruby's work will be appreciated for its merits, and not the fact that ruby was transgender. the fact that ruby is transgender has absolutely nothing to do with her provenance as a designer. anyone that tries to construe things otherwise is using her dead body as a flag.

The original arguments over the release of these two projects were rooted in a single paragraph written in a long-shelved documentation package which was to accompany this, which bears repeating.

To any who would wish to politicise or weaponize the works of the late and great Ruby, please don't. It is unsighty. As a member of the team helping test the Rose & Thorn, I never learned about the controversial nature of their life until after their untimely end. Therefore, I would like to ask each and every one of the readers of this document to appreciate the work of this pleasant and by all accounts nice individual to their fullest extent, which would be without any thought to politics or identity. It is simply a wonderful model made for anyone to enjoy.

With that said, please continue to the rest of the guide, and thank you for reading.

-Nikolai Romanov

Testing Report

The RnT in this iteration has been tested somewhat extensively with PCCs - when printed correctly it will work fine. However, dont expect it to survive a rifle. the rose itself will not explode, but the flash hider bits on the front will blow out - use at your own risk. the thorn will unceremoniously explode upon use with a rifle. don't do it.

the rose can even be printed in PETG and will survive fine assuming you are using one of the thread adapter options.

WARNING NOT FOR USE WITH RIFLE CALIBERS USE WITH .45ACP, 5.7X28, 22WMR/LR, AND 9MM ONLY. USING THE ROSE AND THORN IN ANY COMBINATION WITH A RIFLE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE VERY UNSAFE IT WILL EXPLODE

Thanks to the beta testers and DD admins involved -iamarizona (which really didnt do anything but make things worse but whatever, you get some credit for being present, even if you threatened violence against me) -rsmith28 (originally involved in documentation, was nice at least) -Sparquah (tester, also a very rude person but iirc they did test it at least once.) -Lizzyhasagat (tester, also threatened to swat me later.) -TooAceForThisShit (tester, afaik okay) -uncleJunior (i dont remember why, but im sure they tested it) -nikolairomanov (tested the RnT in multiple forms and added all of the current thread patterns, as well as made this entire filepack.)

Variants

  • Rose - the rose flash can
  • Thorn - the thorn muzzle brake
  • Rose&Thorn - the rose and the thorn joined together

Thread patterns:

  • 578x28 - 45 cal
  • 5/8x24 - some 9mms use this
  • 1/2x28 - 9mm/5.7/etc
  • 1/2x36 - some 9mm pccs use this
  • 3/4x10 - mac9 muzzle threads. very large, may not be accessible depending on your mac frame. rose only.
  • 3/4x16 - thread adapter for 1/2x28 barrels. offers more contact area and better thermal resistance than direct thread. only available for the rose+thorn
  • 7/8x9 - 45cal mac muzzle threads. very rare but why not (45cal) rose only.
  • 13/16x16 - muzzle brake external threads. rose only
  • 13/16x16 BA - made specifically for the BREEK ARMS muzzle devices with an angled shoulder for better contact area. rose only

If there is any thread pattern Rose/Thorn/RnT you need and not in the pack please feel free to contact me through any channel and I will make it for you, and the pack will be updated with the new files.

EXTRAS: 5/8x24 crush washer

Materials Required

  • x1 149g of PLA+, ABS, or PA-CF - ROSE
  • x1 22g of PLA+, ABS, or PA-CF - THORN
  • x1 154g of PLA+, ABS, or PA-CF - ROSE AND THORN

Instructions

1.PRINT WITH RECCOMENDED SETTINGS:

SYSTEMA SERIES PRINT SETTINGS ORIENTATION - Thread on the bed VOLUMETRIC FLOW - VERY IMPORTANT IF YOUR SLICER IS CAPABLE OF LIMITING VOLUMETRIC FLOW, SET TO 8MM^3/S OR LESS FOR PLA+, LESS FOR OTHER MATERIALS IF IT IS NOT CAPABLE, USE SPEED TO LIMIT VOLUMETRIC FLOW. IDK HOW, FIGURE IT OUT OR USE A DIFFERENT SLICER RECTILINEAR INFILL INFILL PERCENTAGE- 100% WALLS - 2-4 depending on your nozzle size TOP/BOTTOM LAYERS - 2 LAYER HEIGHT - AS A GENERAL RULE, STICK TO 1/2 THE DIAMETER OF YOUR NOZZLE FOR STRENGTH. FOR PRINTED THREADS, USE 0.16-0.2MM LAYER HEIGHT. 0.3mm will work but will be hard to thread. Z SEAM - SET TO RANDOMIZE, OTHERWISE THIS CAN CREATE STRESS CONCENTRATIONS IN THE PART. BRIM - RECCOMDENDED OUTSIDE BRIM ONLY, 5+MM MINIMUM. SHOULD PULL RIGHT OFF.

  1. REMOVE FROM PRINT BED
  2. THREAD ON TO MUZZLE, APPLYING DOWNWARD FORCE PARALLEL WITH THE BARREL TO START THE THREADS
  3. EQUIP EYE AND HEARING PROTECTION FOR FIRST SHOTS TO VALIDATE THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY.
  4. FIRE AT LEAST 5 SHOTS TO ENSURE IT SURVIVES
  5. ???
  6. Profit

Pro-tip: Get a tap in the thread pattern you plan on using, and chase the threads with it carefully. this will make your threads a lot smoother. highly reccomended for direct thread.

Change Log

 

  • V1 - Same Version that was betad with the gatalog, initially designed by ruby. refined by yours truly and added almost all of the current thread patterns, as well as the "rose only" version.
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Project Info

release date

Apr 1, 2025

artifact types

CAD Object, Stereolithic object

library category

Printable Peripherals / Parts

fabrication method

Primarily Printable

release country

United States

language

English

license

No license

Firearm Info

types

Pistol, Pistol-Caliber Carbine

files

File Extension
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose/STL/Rose .578x28.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose/STL/Rose 1-2x28.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose/STL/Rose 7-8x9.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose/STL/Rose 5-8x24.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose/STL/Rose 13-16x16.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose/STL/Rose 3-4x16.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose/STL/Rose 13-16x16 BA.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose/STL/Rose 3-4x10.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose/STL/Rose 1-2x36.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Extras/5-8x24 Crush Washer.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Thorn/Thorn 5-8x24.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Thorn/Thorn .578x28.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Thorn/Thorn 1-2x28.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Thorn/Thorn 1-2x36.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose & Thorn/RnT 3-4x16.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose & Thorn/RnT 1-2x36.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose & Thorn/RnT .578x28.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose & Thorn/RnT 5-8x24.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STL/Rose & Thorn/RnT 1-2x28.stl stl
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose/Rose 1-2x28.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose/Rose 7-8x9.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose/Rose .578x28.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose/Rose 5-8x24.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose/Rose 3-4x10.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose/Rose 13-16x16.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose/Rose 13-16x16 BA.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose/Rose 1-2x36.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose/Rose 3-4x16.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Thorn/Thorn 1-2x28.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Thorn/Thorn .578x28.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Thorn/Thorn 1-2x36.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Thorn/Thorn 5-8x24.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose & Thorn/RnT 1-2x28.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose & Thorn/RnT 3-4x16.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose & Thorn/RnT 1-2x36.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose & Thorn/RnT .578x28.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/STEP/Rose & Thorn/RnT 5-8x24.step step
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/Renders/Thorn 1.png png
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/Renders/Thorn 2.png png
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/Renders/Rose 1.png png
Rose and Thorn Version II - OKB69 Release/README - Rose and Thorn.md md

versions

Version: 1.0.0 latest

initial upload

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